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966569 bob : well he is dead like those two
966570 charliedontsurf : Good, may he rot in hell
966571 charliedontsurf : If they can find Zawahiri they should blow his ass up too
966572 charliedontsurf : The left will call him a father, a leader, and an astute religious scholar like Albaghdadi
966573 bob : what about Senator Mike Lee going all lefty
966574 charliedontsurf : unbelieveable!
966575 charliedontsurf : He's not all lefty, at least I hope not..we'll see
966576 charliedontsurf : He's one of my senators
966577 bob : yes i read that
966578 charliedontsurf : He makes a point...that war has to be declared by the Congress
966579 bob : Trump wasnt making war
966580 charliedontsurf : But we haven't done that much since Korea, they've given their responsiblities over to the Executive Branch
966581 bob : he was giving a troublesome gnat a slapping
966582 charliedontsurf : Obama was the king of the drones, never heard a peep out of any Democratic lawmaker
966583 charliedontsurf : lol Bob
966584 charliedontsurf : politics is so hypocritical..both sides, it makes me sick
966585 bob : even moderate left of center voters must not like the way that the rabid left seem to trash the USA
966586 charliedontsurf : It's sad, but very clear, that many far left Dems if they were honest hate their country, it's sad
966587 charliedontsurf : Some admit it, others lie, but their actions speak volumes
966588 charliedontsurf : Patriotism is a bad word now?
966589 bob : only with the extreme left
966590 charliedontsurf : They make nationalism and pride in one's country synonomous with white supremacy and fascism...look up the word, not the "new definitions" according to the left
966591 charliedontsurf : They deliberately use non-offensive words to make it more palatable, and saw everything is a "dog whistle"
966592 charliedontsurf : abortion used to be abortion, now it's a woman's right to choose or reproductive freedom
966593 charliedontsurf : I bet the fetus would love a voice haha
966594 bob : did you see the map of where Americans thought iran was?
966595 charliedontsurf : Love of country doesn't have to be displayed as a Hitler speech with thousands of Nazis fgs
966596 charliedontsurf : Yes, not surprising, never underestimate the knowledge of many Americans.....as long as they have their porn, disability check and a Beyonce CD, nothing else matters haha
966597 charliedontsurf : Why was I not shocked? And I doubt it's only Americans
966598 charliedontsurf : And these people are allowed to vote, and worse still reproduce lol
966599 charliedontsurf : We lost JD
966601 charliedontsurf : sorry man
966602 jdawg78 : No. I'm here.
966603 jdawg78 : LIstening to a speech.
966604 jdawg78 : Seth Andrews.
966605 charliedontsurf : Throw in your barbs
966606 charliedontsurf : hmm ok
966607 jdawg78 : Well, what's holding people back on abortion?
966608 bob : who is seth andrews
966609 jdawg78 : Is it considered murder?
966610 bob : dont you agree with abortion?
966611 jdawg78 : I've never been pregnant so I don't have a say.
966612 bob : what about if you are the father
966613 jdawg78 : That's a tough question. But again...it's still not up to me.
966614 jdawg78 : If the woman wants to keep the child, it's her choice.
966615 jdawg78 : I'm not going to make her have an abortion.
966616 jdawg78 : Or make her keep the child...
966617 bob : if she decides to keep the child....you will have to pay
966618 jdawg78 : Well, I would have to raise a child. Sure.
966619 jdawg78 : Why think of it as -paying-?
966620 bob : so you have to pay if she keeps it so shouldnt you have a say in the decision
966621 jdawg78 : Why wouldn't I want to care for my own child?
966622 charliedontsurf : So is it a person or not? And if so, when?
966623 jdawg78 : Ah, the crux of the issue.
966624 jdawg78 : Well, when does self awareness start?
966625 charliedontsurf : Why not err on the side of caution?
966626 bob : a person exists at fertilization
966627 bob : if left to nature it develops into a person
966628 charliedontsurf : I'm not religious at all, I'm just saying...maybe we should think this out a bit and not use abortion as a last-ditch form of birth control
966629 jdawg78 : Well, depends on the definition of a person..
966630 charliedontsurf : oh brother
966631 jdawg78 : You have to also think about health issues, wether or not you can care for the child, etc.
966632 charliedontsurf : Bill Clinton...depends on what your definition of "is" is
966634 charliedontsurf : Health issues for sure....but REAL health issues of the mother, not a bogus excuse
966635 charliedontsurf : If the mother could die, I'm all for it
966636 bob : i am right to life but i would never stop a woman from having an abortion
966637 charliedontsurf : But if she had a headache...maybe not
966638 charliedontsurf : And to say that only women have the right to say anything is crazy...it takes two to tango
966639 charliedontsurf : Father's rights should play a role
966640 jdawg78 : Well, the christian bible says you aren't alive until you draw your first breath.
966641 charliedontsurf : and there is always adoption, I'm adopted
966642 charliedontsurf : You're listening to a podcast by a renowned atheist and you're playing the Bible game lol
966643 charliedontsurf : It also says Eve was made out of Adam's rib
966644 jdawg78 : And Exodus 21 says that causing a miscarriage (ie abortion) the man will be fined. (if the woman dies) he will be but to death.
966645 jdawg78 : Well, I'm looking at both schools of thought.
966646 charliedontsurf : miscarriage and abortion are synonymous lol
966647 jdawg78 : And at least even christians say that abortion is okay.
966648 jdawg78 : it says -causing miscarriage-
966649 jdawg78 : key word -cause-
966650 charliedontsurf : I'm saying there are some instances for sure where abortion should be considered, but not for convenience
966651 charliedontsurf : my opinion
966652 jdawg78 : But if I were the father...and my spouse and I vote...
966653 jdawg78 : Should my vote count as 50%?
966654 jdawg78 : Or should she get at least 75% of the vote because it's also something happening to her body?
966655 charliedontsurf : Why is abortion almost a sacrament to Democrats?
966656 jdawg78 : Like I vote you have an abortion honey-
966657 jdawg78 : I'll get the coat hanger.
966658 bob : those last minute abortions are a crime
966659 charliedontsurf : Those are criminal yes
966660 jdawg78 : Last minute abortion...like when the kid is 12.
966661 jdawg78 : My mom always used to tell me that it was never too late for an abortion.
966662 charliedontsurf : And all the Dems running for President are for it
966663 charliedontsurf : A joke for any occasion JD lol
966664 charliedontsurf : Even the murder of an 8 month old fetus
966666 bob : there are some cases when the kid is 12 where it would be justified
966667 jdawg78 : I wouldn't treat abortion as a convenience thing. I wouldn't flip a coin. If it were my child...we'd talk about it.
966668 jdawg78 : We would look at all the pros and cons...decide if we are ready.
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