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Here you can see all the history of previous conversations.
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958066 bob : i can see what motivates you
958067 gemma : one thing
958068 bob : its hard to get personaliy in a chat
958069 gemma : almost wholeheartedly now
958071 gemma : i hope it's not personality
958072 gemma : i equate that with ego
958073 gemma : something deeper
958075 gemma : there's so much more than this
958076 gemma : maybe it's my duty to find it
958077 bob : i dont begin to understand
958078 gemma : i'm silly to think i will ever understand the great mystery of life lol
958079 gemma : the other day,
958080 gemma : my body laughed at what my brain was trying to understand.
958081 gemma : our brains are limited
958082 gemma : but consciousness can reach beyond brains
958083 bob : well keep looking regardless
958084 gemma : i'm not really looking
958085 gemma : i already know in a sense
958086 bob : i will be honest , i dont think like this
958087 gemma : it's the 'knowing' that i'd like to realize fully
958088 bob : how are you going to achieve that
958089 gemma : i envy you in a way then bob lol
958090 gemma : in many ways, i wish i didn't think so 'big'
958091 gemma : my dad used to always tell me,
958092 gemma : 'don't try to understand life, just live it'
958093 gemma : :)
958094 bob : thats my philosophy
958095 bob : to a certain extent
958096 gemma : great philosophy
958097 gemma : perhaps the best
958098 gemma : when it all boils down to, is living
958099 gemma : the fuller the better.
958100 gemma : wild aliveness
958101 gemma : :)
958102 bob : God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.
958103 gemma : i love the serenity prayer!
958104 gemma : heard it a lot in recovery circles
958105 bob : i didnt know it was a prayer until right now
958107 gemma : where did you hear about it then?
958108 bob : i thought it was just a clever saying
958109 gemma : it's said at all 12-step meetings
958110 gemma : it's like one of their motto-prayers
958111 bob : never been to a 12 step meeting
958112 gemma : another good thing
958114 bob : im a nothing to excess person
958115 gemma : it wasn't for me, but i did pick up a lot of things
958116 gemma : would you say you're balanced bob?
958117 bob : i accept that people become suicidal but will never understand why
958118 gemma : or disciplined?
958119 gemma : or easy to please?
958120 gemma : i wonder what motives you...
958121 bob : balanced and disciplined
958122 bob : personal happiness motivates me
958123 gemma : i think i understand the suicidal mind
958124 gemma : i don't believe in personal happiness bob, but i think i know what you mean
958125 bob : Robin williams.....what reason could he have
958126 bob : i will never understand
958127 gemma : there's mental pain
958128 gemma : it's much greater than any physical pain you can imagine
958129 bob : yes but not any i can fathom
958130 bob : perhaps i havent been there
958131 gemma : again, be grateful for that
958132 bob : perhaps you have to have been there
958133 gemma : they say religion is for people afraid of going to hell; spirituality is for those of us who have been there.
958134 gemma : i heard it put well by one guy
958135 gemma : he wrote about suicide before he took his own life
958136 bob : religion is for people who need life not to be meaningless
958137 gemma : he used the analogy of people in a building on fire
958138 gemma : and people shouting for you not to jump
958139 gemma : jumping is an escape from burning to death.
958140 bob : the lesser of 2 evils
958142 bob : people jumped from the twin towers
958143 gemma : makes sense to me
958144 bob : jumpig give hope
958145 gemma : a leap of faith?
958146 bob : fire = certain death jumping = tiny chance of survival
958148 bob : how does that equate to suicide
958149 gemma : the person who is trapped in a burning building
958150 gemma : that's how he was talking about someone who takes their life
958151 gemma : it's not to kill themselves,
958152 gemma : it's to free themselves
958153 bob : so jumping is the taking of their life to escape
958154 gemma : escape may be one way of looking at it
958155 bob : do you think that a person who is contemplating or has taken their own life is of sound mind
958156 gemma : you've never considered suicide?
958159 gemma : i think they may be the soundest
958160 bob : i have never been in such a hopeless position
958161 gemma : i used to think differently
958162 gemma : but as you said earlier,
958163 gemma : we kind of alter our views as we learn more
958165 gemma : it's not about possessions
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