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953423 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : crowd*
953424 PauLa : I was in un caso hace dos semanas en que un hincha de peñarol mató a uno de nacional en un festejo, y las cámaras fueron muy efectivas
953425 BillMcneal : you can contribute to the death of someone, not directly killing them
953426 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : sounds fair to me L
953427 PauLa : that was the case Bill
953428 BillMcneal : oh i read about that case
953429 PauLa : really?
953430 BillMcneal : yes, i didn't fully get it though
953431 BillMcneal : some were saying it was a crimen por encargo
953432 PauLa : it was
953433 BillMcneal : but then the guy gave orders to just shoot anyone? nonsense
953434 PauLa : from the jail
953435 BillMcneal : ah so that was bs
953436 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : lol bill can't translate terms? don't believe it
953437 PauLa : a crazy person
953438 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : should make a screen
953440 BillMcneal : i don't know much legalese
953441 BillMcneal : i save a lot of face using the word "legalese", however
953442 BillMcneal : so did he want to get that one guy killed or not?
953443 PauLa : legalese? don´t know what it mean
953445 PauLa : not the guy who was killed
953446 PauLa : el preso era hincha de peñarol y le pagó por encargo que disparara a la marcha
953447 BillMcneal : it's legal + the ending "ese" you use for some languages or demonyms, like senegalese
953448 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : lol legalese sounds intimidating yes
953450 BillMcneal : awesome word, never forget it
953451 PauLa : phones should be forbidden at jails
953452 BillMcneal : so a guy in prison hired a hitman to kill just about any nacional fans? that's... a waste of money, to begin with
953453 BillMcneal : they aren't?
953454 PauLa : jajaja he doesn´t mind about that, and besides he doesn´t think as you or I do
953455 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : public phones?
953456 BillMcneal : there are devices that can do that, but they're not willing to implement the technology because... you know
953457 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : he would find a way through his visitors or other prisoners too
953458 PauLa : phone cells son
953460 PauLa : what about the "guardias"?
953461 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : what devices r u talking about bill
953462 PauLa : there is the corruption
953463 BillMcneal : some stuff that interferes with mobile signals
953464 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : ohhh yeah i see
953465 BillMcneal : it's just EM waves after all
953466 PauLa : there are
953467 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : guardias=guards? guardia civil, civil police?
953468 BillMcneal : this, like politics, it's all our fault
953469 PauLa : but they said that day it didnt work
953470 BillMcneal : civilians should regularly visit prisons and see how things are working
953471 BillMcneal : there's no way around this problem
953472 BillMcneal : just about any guard olga, she means penitentiary system guards
953473 PauLa : cárceles de alta seguridad?
953475 BillMcneal : how much security do you need to control people? just some guys at a distance with weapons
953476 PauLa : sorry son my English is not good enough
953477 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : Paula, does your job bring you a lot of stress? dealing with criminal cases all the time
953478 BillMcneal : when ww2 was over the soviets kept millions (millions!!) of german prisoners of war
953479 PauLa : but you need the "will" to do it
953480 BillMcneal : they didn't just escape... that doesn't happen when you don't want it to happen
953481 BillMcneal : right, that's why regular people should become more involved in the process
953482 BillMcneal : we're too lazy
953483 PauLa : not always with criminals son, but yes it is stressful
953484 PauLa : no lazy
953485 BillMcneal : unfortunately, we're too poor also and have no free time for this or anything else
953486 PauLa : money is in betwenn
953488 BillMcneal : let's start a civil war then
953489 BillMcneal : we'll execute any greedy people :P
953490 PauLa : jajaja will you be the boss?
953491 BillMcneal : what else does it take anyway
953492 BillMcneal : maybe (?)
953493 BillMcneal : i can sleep on the floor, i'm ready
953494 PauLa : I have no answer for that, but it is really hard to eat
953495 BillMcneal : to eat the floor? you bet!
953496 PauLa : jaja no
953498 BillMcneal : i get the impression all the great leaders of history were just random people who happened to be in the right place at the right time and yet had no real control over what was happening, only an illusion of power
953499 PauLa : would you like death pena?
953500 BillMcneal : nah, not really
953501 PauLa : so, more controls
953502 BillMcneal : what's the point of starting a revolution for good causes if you'll end up potentially killing innocent people
953503 PauLa : it was your idea
953504 BillMcneal : more involvement
953506 BillMcneal : and i say this being the most distant person in this neighborhood
953507 BillMcneal : but i should know more people and they should know me
953508 BillMcneal : to keep me and themselves in check
953509 BillMcneal : a balance of individual power
953510 BillMcneal : that'd be the first step, mandatory social interaction
953511 PauLa : but I think it is not an individual power
953513 BillMcneal : am i starting to sound like a leader yet? :P
953514 PauLa : we´re just pets
953515 PauLa : jajaja if you say so
953516 BillMcneal : we're pets because we exert no pressure over anyone or any institutions
953517 sonvzvezdnuyunoc : are you trying to build a system of reports luke
953518 PauLa : are we able to do it?
953520 BillMcneal : but it's clear we're not a "people", just a bunch of people with individual opinions and interests that end up being just part of a game played by others
953521 BillMcneal : we as a "people" never agree to solve any problems, never reach any basic conclusions
953522 PauLa : I agree.....but?
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