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865065 aegis1 : Good video, thanks.
865066 Jugador : It is good, very good
865067 Ric : That's interesting, aegis1.
865068 engi : the link i gave Aegis?
865069 engi : is viewable in the US?
865070 aegis1 : The Bush Administration pushed a North American Union, and the effort is still alive..
865071 aegis1 : Yes, engi, your link. Thank you.
865072 engi : your welcome
865073 engi : you are
865074 engi : you're
865076 engi : we have the same problemhere as the US does...
865077 engi : brexit and trump =bannon and the far right
865078 Ric : I did American system votation in school, but never managed to wrap my head around that
865079 jdawg78 : I still don't get it. LOL
865080 Ric : like you can in an ellection without enough voters, but through popularity
865081 engi : ***American voting system
865082 Ric : that's it thanks
865083 Ric : I know you guys have three levels: local, state and federal
865084 Ric : and the president gets voted in by states
865085 Ric : and there's is where I get lost
865086 Ric : it's not a matter of number of votes, but popularity within each state?
865087 aegis1 : The states have 'electors' commensurate with the population of the state. Different states have different rules on the internal mechanics, but basically, if you win the popular vote in a state you win its electors.
865088 aegis1 : It protects the 'minority' , or rural states.
865089 aegis1 : Otherwise, the population centers would just decide every election.
865090 aegis1 : Candidates know the system, so campaign accordingly.
865091 Ric : That's the popular vote I was referring to
865092 aegis1 : I'm not an expert. But I take an interest. I love to hear different points-of-view. It is how I learn.
865093 Ric : it was implemented to protect minorities, but it ended up as a means for presidents not voted in to be able to take offiice
865094 aegis1 : We are not a democracy, but a Representative Republic.
865095 aegis1 : And we do not use a simple Popular Vote for the Presidency.
865096 Ric : how do you cast a 'popular vote'?
865097 Ric : through surveys?
865098 aegis1 : Maybe it will change. But those are the rules now that every candidate must meet.
865099 Jugador : 1 person one vote for whichever party you want.... the highest wins
865100 aegis1 : Popular Vote is the tally of all the votes that were cast, disregarding the actual rules to win.
865101 Jugador : We vote for MPs to gain a constituency, and its the party who gets the most constituencies that wins, regardless of how many peoplke are in that constutuency
865102 Jugador : similar to the US
865103 Jugador : but all wrong in my opinion
865104 aegis1 : it is hotly debated here...
865105 Ric : no wonder why
865106 engi : PR is what we need!
865107 Jugador : PR?
865108 Jugador : Proportional Representation
865110 Jugador : I'm a tad slow today
865111 Ric : Thanks aegis1, that was very clarifying
865112 Ric : proportional representation is what is done in other democracies
865113 Jugador : You're from Texas aegis right?
865114 aegis1 : Yes. I am in the Dallas area.
865116 Ric : what really struck me as odd was that you literally can vote for any party, even if it's not on the ballot, in some states
865117 Jugador : I imagine that is quite a coservative area no?
865118 Jugador : really Ric???
865120 Jugador : how can that even work?
865121 Ric : not sure if you can do it in every state
865122 aegis1 : Like most places, the population centers are more Liberal and the rural areas more Conservative.
865123 Jugador : ok, yea
865124 Ric : but which parties appear on the ballots rests with every state laws
865125 Jugador : but as a whole, is Texas Republican?
865126 aegis1 : Yes. It swings Republican. The influx of new voters from both immigration and flight from other states is changing the demographic, but you are right.
865127 Jugador : ok thanks
865128 aegis1 : DFW, Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex is 4th largest population center in the USA
865129 Jugador : I was in San Antonia many years ago, that's a nice place
865130 aegis1 : I did not mean to interrupt your discussion. I enjoy political matters and learn from everyone here....
865131 Jugador : I remember having frozen Margeritas sat outside a bar by the river, it was the coolest thing ever
865132 Jugador : Aegis, it's a chat room, you are never interupting
865133 aegis1 : I wish I had a margarita now. j/s
865134 Jugador : me too bud
865135 aegis1 : I really am here to see Spanish conversation. Just got caught up in that video from engi.
865136 Ric : aegis1, it's alright. Your explanation was indeed very clarifying
865137 Jugador : How long have you been learning Spanish aegis?
865138 aegis1 : Too long, because I do not invest enough time in it.
865139 Jugador : Same here, no shame in that
865140 aegis1 : I know a few words and I can follow conversation by context. I need grammatical help.
865141 Jugador : Aye and there's the rub...
865142 Jugador : The grammar is ostensibly the most challenging part
865143 aegis1 : I enjoy the community here, and appreciate everyone.
865144 Jugador : Yes it's good at times, boring at others
865145 jdawg78 : So because it snowed we didn't get any trick or treaters.
865146 Ric : did you miss them lol
865147 jdawg78 : So I'm left with all this candy.
865148 Ric : oh send them all this way
865149 Ric : << has a sweet tooth
865150 Jugador : give it to your local childrens hospital
865151 Ric : That'd be a great thing to do
865152 Jugador : Or a food bank
865153 engi : See you all later!
865154 Ric : Welcome to the community, aegis1
865155 engi : have a good weekend!
865156 Jugador : see ya Engi
865157 Ric : See you, Mr Carnot
865158 Jugador : u 2
865159 Ric : you too
865160 Jugador : beers tonight???
865161 Jugador : i am
865162 Jugador : and curry
865163 Ric : I have a dinner at a friend's
865164 Jugador : he left...
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