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831725 Jugador : mmmm, ok that explains a lot
831727 charliedontsurf : I tend to agree with you Amlo
831728 charliedontsurf : I don't generally ascribe to the "it is a disease" defense....
831729 amlo : now when someone is murdered by a cartel thats a real victim
831730 charliedontsurf : It's a bad choice, or a weakness, but that's not the current politically-correct attitude
831731 charliedontsurf : of course amlo
831732 charliedontsurf : No responsiblity now, there's always a reason why someone killed, raped, tortured, stole
831733 charliedontsurf : not their fault, come on man
831734 charliedontsurf : hola maria
831735 Maria88 : Hola charlie
831736 amlo : 16 thousand kids have been killed for the drug war here in mexico
831737 amlo : sure they must have been working for a cartel
831738 charliedontsurf : youtu.be/KvFsULpx0To
831739 charliedontsurf : Yeah, sounds like a mess there, amlo
831740 charliedontsurf : eres espanola?
831741 charliedontsurf : Exit the reply lol
831742 amlo : this is a senseless war
831743 Jugador : The leaders in the drug gangs prey on the weak and vunerable to distribute their goods, they get a hold on these kids and then they kids can´t get out,,
831744 charliedontsurf : Hard to even call it a war now, but a way of life, no end in sight, too much corruption, too much money, too much power with the cartels
831745 charliedontsurf : The honest cops there are in constant danger
831746 Jugador : Leagalise and tax drugs, cut out the middle man
831747 charliedontsurf : youtu.be/GooLNyuKqt8
831748 charliedontsurf : You sound like a Libertarian, Jugs
831749 Jugador : it makes sense to me, look at Portugal
831750 Jugador : Hola Maria
831751 Jugador : no te vi
831752 amlo : look at the xix century
831753 amlo : morphine didnt need prescription
831754 charliedontsurf : That's one option, but you still have a crowd of drug users, now legit, and a huge cost for rehabilitation
831755 amlo : and later heroin was sold as a cough supressant
831756 charliedontsurf : Heroin was legal in the early 19th century, too, amlo, what is your point?
831757 Jugador : why rehabilite, control the ammount they are given
831758 charliedontsurf : early 20th century sorry
831759 amlo : there was a pandemic like it seems now?
831760 charliedontsurf : There will always be a black market
831761 amlo : it was legal for decades
831762 amlo : opium was used by roman emperors
831763 charliedontsurf : So were a lot of vices, amlo
831764 charliedontsurf : 2,000 years ago, OK I think you're straying from the initial discussion now lol
831765 amlo : why is there not a single negative term for those who use opium in ancient history?
831766 amlo : there were a lot for alcoholics
831767 charliedontsurf : Bob may be hitting the opium pipe this very moment
831768 amlo : but not for opium consumers
831769 charliedontsurf : I wasn't there, amlo, you tell us
831770 amlo : greeks feared and forbid alcohol
831771 charliedontsurf : I doubt it was as widespread as you think, or wasn't important enough to mention
831772 charliedontsurf : forbade(
831773 amlo : but opium havent had any problems until xx century
831774 Jugador : There wasn´t the distribution network back then
831775 amlo : arabs called it "plant of god"
831776 charliedontsurf : I bet there was in China
831777 amlo : it was a commercial war
831778 charliedontsurf : widespread use I mean
831779 Jugador : smart ass chinsese, hell yea
831781 Jugador : chinese*
831782 charliedontsurf : They brought it here when they migrated to the US
831783 Jugador : I was a commodity
831784 charliedontsurf : opium dens, and Americans would get hooked too
831785 amlo : nietzsche goethe were avid users for productive purposes
831787 Jugador : You lot should have grabbed to opportunity then to seel it through legitimate markets
831788 charliedontsurf : How do you think Nietzche became a Superman?
831789 Jugador : sell*
831790 charliedontsurf : And Goethe was Mesistopholes
831791 charliedontsurf : You saw it in Peaky Blinders, Jugs
831792 amlo : the list of brilliant figures in europe who used opium frequently is endlless
831793 charliedontsurf : The Chinese distributing it to the US through them
831794 amlo : in the xix century
831795 Jugador : Oh i watched the final episode last night, fell asleep 15 mins b4 the end..
831796 charliedontsurf : So become an opium user, amlo, no one is stopping you
831797 charliedontsurf : Were you surprised by the re-introduction of our friend?
831798 Jugador : I saw up to where Mosley was about to be shot in the Theatre
831799 Jugador : Not really, he´s too good a character to lose
831800 charliedontsurf : Freud had an opium addiction too, and look what kind of dreams he had lol
831801 amlo : now people are dying in extreme pain without any palliative care for the fear of addiction
831802 Jugador : jajaja good point
831803 charliedontsurf : Mosley is Tom Hardy?
831804 amlo : if any greek doctor of the ancient time was brought to live he would think we are mad for forbiding opium
831805 charliedontsurf : Oh yes, you need to watch the end, Jugs
831806 Jugador : No... the Jewish guy Alfie Solomons
831807 charliedontsurf : Yes, were you surprised that he came back?
831808 Jugador : oh... i havent seen it all
831810 amlo : hippocrates would have a heart attack
831811 Jugador : Slightly, but he´s too good to let go
831812 charliedontsurf : Hippocrates: First do no harm
831813 charliedontsurf : Yes, he's a great character, but we thought he had died
831814 Jugador : i know, yea shot on the beach
831815 charliedontsurf : Yes, so when I saw him again I was thinking, huh????
831816 charliedontsurf : You need to watch the last 15 minutes when you get a chance
831817 charliedontsurf : Only one more season and they're calling it quits
831818 amlo : ok sorry for that rant lol
831819 Jugador : Where did you hear that?
831820 amlo : i had to let it go
831821 charliedontsurf : wikipedia, not sure how reliable that is
831822 Jugador : Let it gooooooooooooo let it gooooooooooo
831823 charliedontsurf : After the conclusion of the fourth series, he confirmed that it would take another three series (seven in total) to complete the story up to that point. The fifth series premiered on BBC One on 25 August 2019 and finished on 22 September 2019.
831824 charliedontsurf : Maybe I was wrong......
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