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1775810 Macuahuitl : All religions are b.s., IMHO.
1775811 sabb : the Bible is a very deep book, you can read it for a lifetime and still uncver new things
1775812 sabb : the difference with Christianity is that there is a Savior
1775813 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› That can be said about any book.
1775814 sabb : all other religions say do good and ask for forfiveness but that would never work
1775815 sabb : because God is JUST.
1775816 Lalabooboo : Yeah. I have an ancient hebrew dictionary that explains how concrete and descriptive the words are. We tend to mysticize the bible when ancient hebrews were very logical people
1775817 sabb : actually not Macu
1775818 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› Ehh, kinda...
1775819 sabb : thats why we need someone to take the punihsment on your our behalf
1775820 sabb : and that was Jesus
1775821 Macuahuitl : I've re-read books before and it had that effect.
1775822 Jdawg78 : The problem is, in the US, do you know how many denominations of Christianity there is?
1775823 sabb : He took YOUR punishment for you
1775824 Jdawg78 : And they all think their version of God is the correct one.
1775825 sabb : on the cross
1775826 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› Prove to me that "Jesus Christ" ever existed...
1775827 Jdawg78 : 34,000.
1775828 Macuahuitl : Besides the Bible.
1775829 Jdawg78 : There are 34,000 different versions of Christianity in the US and they all disagree.
1775830 Macuahuitl : Hola, Zilfo.
1775831 sabb : there is roman histrians such as tacidus of josephus
1775832 sabb : who wrote about Him
1775833 SilFo : Hi mac
1775834 Macuahuitl : "Love thy neighbor" but if you're from a different denomination you can't go to their church.
1775835 SilFo : Hello room
1775836 sabb : we fall short
1775837 Lalabooboo : Hola SilFo
1775838 sabb : we are sinners
1775839 sabb : nobody is perfect, only Jesus is
1775840 Lalabooboo : Then you have to look at what the hebrew word for love is
1775841 Macuahuitl : Love is universal. :D
1775842 Lalabooboo : That.... didnt mean anything jajaja
1775843 sabb : and His perfection gets credited to us when we believe in Him and thats why we NEED Him
1775844 Lalabooboo : Sounds nice though.
1775845 Macuahuitl : Wow...
1775846 Jdawg78 : What's love, but a second hand emotion? -Tina Turner.
1775847 sabb : the WHOLE BIBLE is about our NEED for Christ.
1775848 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› You're starting to sound like a preacher, lol...
1775849 Lalabooboo : Imagine someone's wife cheats on them and says "I still love you. It's universal" jajaja
1775850 sabb : and I hope you come to see that and trust in what He did for you
1775851 Macuahuitl : ‹@Lalabooboo› Jaja.
1775852 sabb : Heaven is a free gift guys
1775853 Lalabooboo : ‹@sabb› No the bible describes the price to pay for heaven. Nothing is free
1775854 Macuahuitl : Pastor preacher, whatever.
1775855 sabb : Romans 6:23
1775856 sabb : read it
1775857 sabb : Heaven is a free gift.
1775858 Lalabooboo : Ok.
1775859 Macuahuitl : I just checked Joel Osteen's net worth as of 2022 is $100 million.
1775860 Macuahuitl : Interesting...
1775861 Lalabooboo : That guy is a demon
1775862 sabb : Joel is a prosperity gospel preacher
1775863 sabb : Jesus warned us about people like him
1775864 Macuahuitl : And there are such things as "corporate Christians". Interesting...
1775865 sabb : I can tell you this
1775866 Lalabooboo : ‹@Macuahuitl› yep.
1775867 sabb : 90% of proffessing Christians are not acutally Christians
1775868 sabb : I used to be one of them
1775870 Jdawg78 : One of the villains in my game was based on Joel. LOL
1775871 Macuahuitl : I'd say that maybe there are some "sincere/die hard Christians" in the world but maybe they're in the minority.
1775872 sabb : A true Christian is someone trusting that the ONLY reason they will go to Heaven is because of JESUS and HIM ALONE.
1775873 sabb : not your good works
1775874 sabb : or your baptism
1775875 sabb : only Jesus.
1775876 sabb : He did it all.
1775877 Macuahuitl : Hmm...
1775878 sabb : We trsut in what has already been done.
1775879 sabb : that;s the gospel
1775880 sabb : and that is why a true Christian is 100% sure of Heaven
1775881 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› You're starting to sound like a preacher...
1775882 sabb : because its not based on what you do, but what HE did for you
1775883 sabb : sorry about that hehe :)
1775884 SilFo : What is heaven ?
1775885 sabb : im just a loser saved by grace
1775886 Macuahuitl : Why is that you can be a good person all your life (even not since not even ONCE in your whole life) but if you don't believe in "God/Jesus Christ" you won't go to "heaven"
1775887 Macuahuitl : ?
1775888 sabb : God's dwelling place
1775889 Macuahuitl : *not even sin
1775890 sabb : a place of no pain, no tears, no death and eternal joy
1775891 sabb : nobody is good
1775892 sabb : Mark 10:18
1775893 sabb : all have sinned
1775894 Macuahuitl : It's all made up, man. Man made, man.
1775895 Jdawg78 : Stephen Fry said he attended a sermon.
1775896 Macuahuitl : :D
1775897 sabb : Romans 3:23
1775898 Jdawg78 : And the minister said -when you die, you get to see all your family again and live with them for eternity'
1775899 Jdawg78 : And Stephen pipes up 'What do we get if we're GOOD?'
1775900 SilFo : You are reading bible literalu saab
1775901 Lalabooboo : Bible conversations can be fun if you take the time to understand what it means and match it up with history
1775902 Jdawg78 : He was asked to leave. LOL
1775903 sabb : people do not go to hell because they didn't believe in Jesus, they go to hell because they have sinned
1775904 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› I was just trying to make a point.
1775905 SilFo : It is written on simbols
1775906 sabb : the Holy Spirit helps us understand the Bible
1775907 Lalabooboo : ‹@sabb› are you an Israelite?
1775908 Macuahuitl : Yeah, but say someone somewhere in history never sinned not even once in their life but they don't believe in "God/Jesus Christ" they don't go to "heaven"
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