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1775610 sabb : God created time and space
1775611 sabb : thats why God always was
1775612 Macuahuitl : How do you explain other galaxies?
1775613 sabb : they were created
1775614 Macuahuitl : By...?
1775615 Macuahuitl : Lemme guess "Jesus Christ"
1775616 sabb : guess :)
1775617 sabb : correct, Jesus is God and did create everything
1775618 Macuahuitl : A bearded white man with blue eyes from somewhere in the Middle East named "Jesus Christ"
1775619 sabb : He formed your eyes, ears, heart, bodliy systems etc
1775620 sabb : not a man
1775621 sabb : Jesus always was
1775622 Macuahuitl : Evolution, my friend...
1775623 sabb : He took human form 2000 years ago
1775624 Jdawg78 : I saw a tiktok...and the video said -Name something that people think are in the bible, but aren't really in the bible.-
1775625 Jdawg78 : And this one lady goes 'White people'.
1775627 sabb : do you know why He took human form?
1775629 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› I'm not that far into the Bible yet.
1775630 Macuahuitl : I'm only at "Judges".
1775631 sabb : haha me too!
1775632 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› Answer me this, who wrote the Bible?
1775633 sabb : I am reading through the OT after reading through the NT
1775634 sabb : 40 different authors over about 1500 years
1775635 sabb : God superintented it all
1775636 Macuahuitl : Interesting...
1775637 sabb : yeah, do you see my messages above?
1775638 Macuahuitl : So the Bible is man-made, correct?
1775639 Macuahuitl : :D
1775640 Jdawg78 : The bible was like written 500 years after Jesus...so...
1775642 Macuahuitl : ?
1775643 sabb : 4 gospels were written in His lifetime
1775644 sabb : they are eye witness accounts
1775645 Jdawg78 : Nope...
1775646 Jdawg78 : But either way, it's full of bad advice.
1775647 sabb : thats basically what the Bible is, a collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lives of other eyewitnesess
1775648 Jdawg78 : There's good advice in it too...but a lot of bad advice too.
1775649 sabb : do you believe in Alexander the Great?
1775650 sabb : how Jdawg?
1775651 Jdawg78 : The whole bit about how to punish your slave if he or she misbehaves...
1775652 Jdawg78 : Just rubs me the wrong way.
1775653 Macuahuitl : Eh, I'd argue that you don't have to "believe" in a someone who there is plenty of documentation by scholars, historians, etc.
1775654 Macuahuitl : i.e. Alexander the Great
1775655 sabb : where does it say that?
1775656 Macuahuitl : But there is ZERO proof that a man named "Jesus Christ" ever existed.
1775657 Jdawg78 : Oh, and if your brother dies, you muist sleep with his wife.
1775658 Macuahuitl : ZIP, ZILCH, NADA.
1775659 sabb : slaves in the OT where to be treated like "maids" of sort
1775660 sabb : yes there is, there is SO MUCH proof
1775661 sabb : your calendar is even proof
1775662 Macuahuitl : Prove it.
1775663 sabb : why is the year 2022?
1775664 Macuahuitl : The Gregorian calendar was invented/developed over many years.
1775665 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› Prove to me that "Jesus Christ" ever existed.
1775666 sabb : well, Chirst was born about 2022 years ago
1775667 sabb : thats why
1775668 Jdawg78 : Exodus...
1775669 Jdawg78 : exodus 20:21
1775670 Macuahuitl : ‹@sabb› Why did he take a human form?
1775671 Jdawg78 : “When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.
1775672 Macuahuitl : I always think to myself if there was proof that Jesus Christ ever existed don't you think it'd be well-known by now?
1775673 sabb : it is well known, so well known
1775674 Macuahuitl : Anything besides the Bible.
1775675 sabb : that verse is talking about people who may abuse their slaves but you wer not supposed to
1775676 sabb : slaves were to be well treated
1775677 Jdawg78 : So, it's okay to own slaves then?
1775678 sabb : for the Isralieties back then, yes
1775679 Jdawg78 : See, I disagree with that.
1775680 sabb : read the Bible in context
1775681 sabb : those laws were given to the Isrealites
1775682 sabb : not to us
1775684 sabb : only 9 of the 10 commandemtns for example apply to us today
1775685 Jdawg78 : So Isrealites can still own slaves then?
1775686 Jdawg78 : And what about the bit about Gods law being eternal and unchanging?
1775687 sabb : not today
1775688 Jdawg78 : So God lied about that then.
1775689 sabb : His law was fulfilled in Christ
1775690 Jdawg78 : Got it.
1775691 sabb : no, God cannot lie
1775692 sabb : so, why did Jesus take human form?
1775695 Macuahuitl : I'm on page 13 of the book "The Making of the Bible: From the First Fragments to Scared Scripture" by Konrad Shmid.
1775696 Jdawg78 : HOla Lalabooboo!
1775697 Jdawg78 : You came in at a weird time.
1775698 sabb : to take the PUNISHMENT that we deserve in hell for our sins so that if we beleive it what He did for us, we will go to heaven
1775699 Lalabooboo : Lol Hola Jdawg78. Its ok
1775700 sabb : its good news.
1775701 Macuahuitl : *I'm only
1775702 Macuahuitl : ‹@Lalabooboo› Hola.
1775703 sabb : I would advise you to read John
1775704 Lalabooboo : ‹@Macuahuitl› Is that book good? Super informative?
1775705 sabb : read the NT
1775706 Macuahuitl : I would respect people's "beliefs"/religion if they didn't try to shove it down my throat.
1775707 sabb : before the OT
1775708 sabb : Im not
1775709 sabb : am i?
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