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767624 BillMcneal : but then you have to own a car and pay for gas
767625 Lynx : it will become more expensive
767626 Lynx : don't you think so?
767627 Lynx : commuter cities?
767628 BillMcneal : everything always becomes more expensive, an economy can experience either inflation or deflation, both are bad, pick one
767629 Lynx : it's like Madrid ... people tend to live away from Madrid as it's expensive
767631 BillMcneal : but you get better jobs if you live in madrid, and get paid more
767632 Lynx : but they commute to Madrid every day
767633 Lynx : well, get paid more ... but life is costly there
767634 PauLa : no puedo
767635 BillMcneal : do you work in your area?
767636 BillMcneal : upper left pau, it says "new post"
767637 PauLa : I tried
767638 Lynx : I live in a very calm place, Bill
767639 Lynx : it's not expensive at all
767640 BillMcneal : do it your way then pau :P
767641 BillMcneal : there's nothing to worry about then lynx
767642 Lynx : many things to worry about
767643 Lynx : better not to think about it jaja
767644 BillMcneal : isn't the population ageing very fast in europe anyway? your towns will be less and less populated eventually :P
767645 Lynx : low birth rates
767647 Lynx : that's a major problem
767648 BillMcneal : not if you have savings
767649 Lynx : plus longer life expectancy
767650 BillMcneal : don't fully depend on your retirement pension money
767651 PauLa : me perdí la charla
767652 Lynx : pensions will be rubbish at this pace
767654 BillMcneal : you still can share your two cents with us pau
767655 BillMcneal : uruguay has a small population, is it aged too?
767656 BillMcneal : our population is fine, but our economy is always crap
767657 Lynx : you'll get the previous government, right Bill?
767658 PauLa : our populations is aged
767659 BillMcneal : i don't understand lynx
767660 BillMcneal : why not encourage immigration then?
767661 Lynx : en las primarias salió con mayoría el partido del anterior gobierno que teníais no?
767662 BillMcneal : oh yeah
767663 Lynx : es decir, Macri fracasó
767664 BillMcneal : there's still chances that won't happen
767665 BillMcneal : time will tell
767666 Lynx : no es Macri la mejor alternativa que hay?
767667 Lynx : no sé que tan bueno sería volver a lo de antes, no?
767668 BillMcneal : has macri done all he could do, and has he done it right? those are the questions; kirchnerismo is just populism for the sake of their own impunity
767669 Lynx : advierto que tampoco conozco mucho la situación
767670 BillMcneal : but it's hard to tell what macrism is
767671 BillMcneal : is it good? i don't know
767672 BillMcneal : me either and i live here haha
767673 BillMcneal : we like using the word "grieta" here, we're too polarized, you have opinions for and against both parties, so you can't tell what's true and what isn't
767674 Lynx : allí sería imposible un gobierno de coalición, no?
767675 BillMcneal : technically, both governments have been coalition governments; kirchnerismo is some peronistas plus some left-wing parties (but not all)
767676 Lynx : en Portugal lo tienen y lo están haciendo muy bien
767677 BillMcneal : macri's is UCR (oldest active party) plus some (few) peronistas
767678 BillMcneal : yes, but portugal is a european country, this is a banana republic my friend :P
767679 PauLa : well, I´m sturborn but I quit
767680 BillMcneal : argentinian politics is essentially groups of powerful friends who want to do business and manage to fool people to vote for them because they tell them they're on their side, and people believe them, no more, no less
767681 PauLa : same heree
767682 BillMcneal : you guys have some decency at least
767683 Lynx : creo que eso se puede aplicar a muchos lugares, Bill
767684 BillMcneal : it's just inconceivable that kirchnerismo could come back to power, it's like a christian praying to satan just because god didn't save a relative from death
767685 PauLa : maybe you don´t know what is under the shadows Bill
767686 BillMcneal : yes lynx, but it's just so clear here, and so hard to remove, we're a pathological nation
767687 Lynx : porque en momentos de dificultad el populismo resurge
767688 Lynx : y te venden el oro y el moro
767689 BillMcneal : you're totally in love with that rhyme today haha
767691 PauLa : si Lynx, pero muchas veces hay que entender que muchos de los que quieren el populismo, no lo hacen porque les gusta, sino porque con lo que les dan....comen
767692 BillMcneal : yep, clientelism is an unfortunate reality
767693 PauLa : y comer es una necesidad básica
767694 PauLa : son votos flutuantes
767695 Lynx : yo soy de una región donde el mismo partido político llevaba gobernando durante casi 30 años
767696 BillMcneal : whenever you see a political demonstration on tv, picketing and the sort, you should know that most of those people are there because it's their job, they get paid for attending these events, it's sad
767697 Lynx : y tenían una red clientelar increíble
767698 PauLa : I agree Bill
767700 BillMcneal : this has been going on since the time of at least augustus, how can such a problem be solved? it's impossible
767701 PauLa : y esa red también era para empleos Lynx?
767702 Lynx : para empleos públicos, claro
767703 PauLa : no ha evolucionado la sociedad en ese aspecto Bill
767704 Lynx : coloco a tu primo y a tu cuñada por aqui
767705 BillMcneal : some provinces here are populated essentially by government workers haha it's almost like a soviet dream, only the whole country has to provide for them
767706 Lynx : y todos contentos
767707 Lynx : pero votadme claro
767708 BillMcneal : oh yeah, nepotism 101
767709 PauLa : si Lynx, en todas partes sucede, aumentan el gasto público y lo pagamos nosotros
767710 Lynx : tanto tiempo en el poder acaba corrompiendo
767711 PauLa : bueno..........
767712 PauLa : aquí no es necesario el tiempo
767713 Lynx : yo pienso que sí
767714 BillMcneal : it's not about that anymore
767715 PauLa : ya nacen queriendo tener lo que el otro tiene
767716 BillMcneal : politicians are literally just the elite of business, they're already corrupted
767717 BillMcneal : i trust felipe much more than our own politicians, i'm for the return of the monarchy
767718 PauLa : I can guess why
767720 Lynx : yo no quiero reyes
767721 BillMcneal : why not? someone has to rule, why not always the same people? at least you know who will rule you
767722 BillMcneal : you can pressure them
767723 Lynx : pero a día de hoy la gente aquí aún siguen estando a favor en mayoría
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