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761465 charliedontsurf : And it's not easy to put yourself in another's shoes
761466 charliedontsurf : Even if you understand the basics, you haven't experienced the details
761467 bob : i cant ....all i think about is that im glad it isnt me
761468 charliedontsurf : And I see re-traumatization a lot
761469 charliedontsurf : I'm glad it isn't me, too
761470 bob : re traumatization
761472 bob : by something different?
761473 charliedontsurf : for example if someone has seen a lot of violence in their life, either to themself or another, it leaves a scar
761474 charliedontsurf : Witnessing new violence just brings back the memories of the prior experiences, re-traumatizing them
761475 charliedontsurf : It's what happens to many rape victims for example....they've been scarred by the incident and then have a difficult time with later healthy relationships
761476 charliedontsurf : And when someone has been neglected they have a hard time building esteem or healthy relationships later
761478 charliedontsurf : Human interaction is multi-faceted and complex
761479 bob : when my daughter was born i swore i wasnt going to do stuff as a parent that pissed me off when my parents did it to me
761480 bob : and i didnt
761481 charliedontsurf : That's common, did it work"
761482 charliedontsurf : atta boy
761483 bob : so i dont understand how some people can use domestic violence cos that is 'all they know'
761484 bob : dont they say to themselves ....im not gonna do that
761485 Jugador : levels I suppose
761486 charliedontsurf : It's called "the at home feeling"
761487 charliedontsurf : If you are raised in a dysfunctional family, you yearn for acceptance at any cost and often don't get it....so strange as it sounds, you may actually interpret aberrant behavior as normal
761488 charliedontsurf : To some being beat is better than being ignored completely, because at least you have the attention of the caregiver or loved one for the moment
761489 bob : doesnt all the good TV that shows what life is supposed to be like have an influence
761490 charliedontsurf : nothing to them is worse than being nothing
761491 bob : or is only bad tv influential
761492 charliedontsurf : lol bob
761493 bob : but it happens after they are adults
761494 bob : responsible for their own actions
761495 charliedontsurf : Many incest survivors actually defend the offender
761496 bob : its a cop out
761497 charliedontsurf : They don't know what "normalcy" is
761498 bob : is that a stockholm syndrome variant
761499 bob : tv tells them
761500 charliedontsurf : hmmm I see where you're going with this....
761501 charliedontsurf : In a functioning household TV would have little or no impact
761502 bob : a functioning household
761503 charliedontsurf : They would be taught good behavior by example of the parents, there would be proper boundaries and accountability
761505 bob : i dont believe that is how it works in real parenting
761506 charliedontsurf : consequences, affection
761507 bob : many things rank above parental example
761508 bob : school friends
761509 bob : tv characters
761510 charliedontsurf : Well you are free to think as you like
761511 charliedontsurf : TV characters lol
761512 bob : social media
761513 charliedontsurf : Peers play a large role
761514 bob : but Mum....sally mum doesnt beat her why do you?
761515 bob : or Mom
761516 charliedontsurf : But many kids who are neglected desperately want their parents to be strict and loving, beg for it....but the parents don't supply it because they are too busy, doing their own thing or trying to be a friend, not a parent
761517 Jugador : then the child gets a beating for asking..
761519 Athenais : I don't know what you are talking about but Charlie is right about that
761520 charliedontsurf : Bob, there is no universal pill for all examples and situations
761521 Jugador : Morning ABz
761522 charliedontsurf : Why thanks young whippersnapper lol
761523 bob : i know ....like aspirin some people cant take it......but it works for the majority
761524 charliedontsurf : True, Bob...and may I say you look sharp in that nylon speedo
761526 charliedontsurf : too much shop talk
761527 charliedontsurf : Jugs, Anne, have you seen the new Aladdin?
761528 Jugador : it's interesting
761529 Jugador : No, but I will
761530 charliedontsurf : Will Smith
761531 charliedontsurf : I hope it doesn't suck
761532 bob : is it a cartoon?
761534 Jugador : he's great
761535 charliedontsurf : no, a movie, Bob
761536 Jugador : there's been a lot of hype over here about it
761537 charliedontsurf : He played Ali great, didn't he Jugs?
761538 charliedontsurf : You've met Cassius
761539 bob : a movie with real people
761540 Jugador : yes he was fabulous at that
761541 Jugador : i did
761543 charliedontsurf : I know, remarkable Bob
761544 charliedontsurf : actual people not CGI or cartoon characters
761545 bob : oe day in the not too distant future it will all be cgi
761546 charliedontsurf : Seems so
761547 Jugador : CGI is great in the right movie
761548 charliedontsurf : what a shame, the glory years of Hollywood are long gone
761549 Jugador : Deadpool was agood example of that
761550 charliedontsurf : True, Jugs, but not when the plot is weak and all you offer is CGI
761551 Jugador : Yea, that's my point
761552 charliedontsurf : sometimes I think the plot has a titty shot every 20 minutes and at least 10 explosions
761553 charliedontsurf : Whether it's a mature film or a Disney lol
761554 bob : its compulsory
761555 Jugador : Some movie makers use it because they can, not because its neccesarry
761557 bob : the khardasians must say vagina and penis every 10 mins...its in the contract
761558 charliedontsurf : little creativity these days, so they rewarm an old plot line for a new generation
761559 bob : like aladdin
761560 charliedontsurf : I stay away from that clan as much as possible, they're horrendous people
761561 bob : cant deny their ability to make themelves rich
761562 bob : got to admire that
761563 charliedontsurf : I thought the mom was bad, then the girls, then Bruce Jenner couldn't be overshadowed lol
761564 charliedontsurf : Throw in Kanye West and Lamar Odom just for new drama and the catastrophe is complete, money or not
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