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753986 charliedontsurf : Goebbels: Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth
753987 charliedontsurf : it's sick
753988 Jugador : That's exactly why Mr Trump repeats his superiority in everything so often isn't it?
753989 charliedontsurf : he is unpolished, straightforward, even crass, but they lie about him constantly...the tide has turned on the Russia hoax....now it's coming out who really colluded
753990 charliedontsurf : no, that's his ego, Jugs
753991 charliedontsurf : We agree, he has a huge ego
753992 Jugador : They lie about Corbyn
753993 charliedontsurf : Perhaps they do
753994 bob : he is not a politician and that is what confuses the media
753995 bob : and they lie about Bo Jo
753996 charliedontsurf : He is not beholden to any lobby, that's the idea of draining the swamp
753997 charliedontsurf : So he has enemies everywhere, most people make money and influence by keeping the status quo......so he must be demonized
753998 charliedontsurf : The hysteria is so overblown it's getting dangerous
753999 charliedontsurf : Remember these names Jugs: Christopher Steele, Fusion GPS, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Orr, Comey, McCabe, blah blah
754000 charliedontsurf : Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, it goes on and on
754001 bob : who are these people
754002 charliedontsurf : You only have CNN so you have only one side
754003 Jugador : Trump himself has whipped up hysteria with the far right that's undenialble
754005 Jugador : well you would say that
754006 bob : i wouldnt watch CNN even if you paid me....
754007 bob : does anyone watch CNN now
754008 charliedontsurf : tell me how, Jugs
754009 Jugador : I don't actually
754011 Jugador : by simply not vilifying them as he should
754012 charliedontsurf : bold accusation, give me proof, I'm open to hear it
754013 bob : the excesses of the left have caused the rise of the right
754014 charliedontsurf : He has
754015 Jugador : yea, right
754016 charliedontsurf : Looks like it is YOU that has his mind closed
754017 Jugador : Come let's be honest we all know what type of man he is, regardless of his political leaning
754018 charliedontsurf : Even when he says all hate must end, white supremacism is an evil ideology they say "he doesn't mean it"
754019 charliedontsurf : whatever he says they make it wrong, or it's not good enough, the system is stacked
754020 charliedontsurf : what kind of a man is he?
754021 charliedontsurf : you said he whips up the far right......I'm waiting
754022 charliedontsurf : youtu.be/6Pd62nU4CWE
754023 charliedontsurf : He was forced to say it, he's really an Imperial Wizard of the KKK lol
754024 bob : The KKK was started by the Democrats
754025 bob : who also voted against the abolition of slavery
754027 charliedontsurf : and Jim Crow
754028 charliedontsurf : Republicans voted in the civil rights act for LBJ, a known racist
754029 charliedontsurf : and the biggest racist Pres in our history was Woodrow Wilson
754030 charliedontsurf : a progressive
754031 charliedontsurf : nothing about progress
754032 charliedontsurf : 2 years ago youtu.be/0qD47QFFkTU
754034 charliedontsurf : If Obama says this stuff he's saying he's a God, women get hot, men get weak in the knees, Trump says it and they see horns growing on his scalp it's crazy lol
754035 charliedontsurf : Bob you know what happened in Charlottesville, right?
754037 charliedontsurf : People in this country are having a debate about what to do with historical statues in this country
754038 charliedontsurf : especially Civil War generals and such
754039 bob : the big march
754040 charliedontsurf : The argument is (and both sides should be heard) should we say they should be taken down because the Confederacy lost and fought to maintain slavery or others say it's all true, but it's part of our history
754041 charliedontsurf : Do we keep them up as a history lesson? Both arguments have merit
754042 bob : its part of history
754043 charliedontsurf : But the left was just tearing them down in mob-like fashion, like fascists
754044 charliedontsurf : So at Charlottesville you had a group of people that said let's take them down, they serve no purpose, and a second group that said lets keep them as historical reminders blah blah
754045 bob : the extremes on both sides are evil
754046 charliedontsurf : Then neo-nazi groups and antifa fascists meddled and it got ugly
754047 bob : antifa are the biggest facists of all
754048 charliedontsurf : in the end it was a fiasco, someone was run over by a white supremacist and it got ugly
754049 bob : do you think Trump ever expected to win?
754050 charliedontsurf : Trump says there are good people in both groups meaning those that would like the statues to stay and those to take them down.....He wasn't referring to KKK or nazis at all in the statement....people know this but it doesn't fit the narrative, so easy to intentionally blur the statement to slam Trump a white supremacist supporter, so dishonest, they don't care winning is everything
754051 charliedontsurf : According to insiders, he was unsure....he put a lot of work in at the end and she didn't but honestly....if he followed the "polls" probably not
754052 charliedontsurf : it's very hard for Republicans to win the Electoral College
754053 charliedontsurf : But Hillary thought she had it in the bag and neglected the Rust Belt states of Ohio, Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and that's all it took
754054 charliedontsurf : both Trump and Hillary were equally unsatisfactory
754055 bob : you guys have a weird electoral system
754056 charliedontsurf : Had anyone other than Sanders been the nominee, I think he would have lost
754057 charliedontsurf : We're a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy
754058 bob : he appealed to the middle class
754059 charliedontsurf : Everyone knows the rules, you campaign differently with it this way, Hillary choked
754060 bob : i dont think Corbyn appeals to the middle class
754061 charliedontsurf : I don't know enough about UK politics to comment on them
754062 bob : politicians usually never campaign to the middle class
754063 bob : either the rich or the poor
754064 charliedontsurf : Dems usually take them for granted, this is not the Democrat Party of JFK or even Obama, they're radicals now
754065 bob : Trump campains to the middle class
754066 charliedontsurf : Many people believe that Bill Clinton would be considered a liberal Republican now and in the last debate, all the Dems threw Obama under the bus for not being radical enough
754067 charliedontsurf : Green New Deal, abortion to the last second, open borders blah blah
754068 charliedontsurf : it's practically anarchy
754069 bob : most countries in recent years have moved to the left....
754070 charliedontsurf : a country without language border and culture is not a sovereign country
754071 bob : but now the worm has turned and the swing is toward the center right
754072 charliedontsurf : What happened to Jugs?
754073 bob : serving customes i imagine
754074 charliedontsurf : center right is good but I don't like the far right or far left in Europe
754075 charliedontsurf : They go too far
754076 bob : the working middle class is usually center right
754077 charliedontsurf : Yeah he has a lot on his plate these days
754078 bob : and neglected
754079 charliedontsurf : Dems used to be the party of the little guy, the working man
754080 charliedontsurf : Now they're elitists, all millionaires
754081 charliedontsurf : There is a new movie coming out called the Hunt where snobby elitists lefties "hunt" deplorable Trump supporters haha
754082 charliedontsurf : Yeah, let's ratchet down the negative talk lol
754084 bob : sign up Guest1.....and you can join in
754085 charliedontsurf : Some lefties the last few days are marching at McConnell's house saying let's put a knife into his heart
754086 charliedontsurf : the "tolerant" left is no more
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