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Here you can see all the history of previous conversations.
Aquí se puede ver todo el historial de conversaciones anteriores.
751951 CaptainJack : we ignore what's on our doorstep
751952 Verntuzo : Pues esque eras un niño cuando te fuiste jeje
751953 Norah19 : And i feel like usa does not know new ppl, it just fight with them
751954 Macuahuitl : Si, jeje. Asi es.
751955 cat : Of course....war is never the goal, its usually instrumental
751956 BillMcneal : they're populated by (quite probably) every single ethnic group out there
751957 Verntuzo : Pero ya se te hará volver a venir
751958 BillMcneal : maybe with the exception of bushmen
751959 BillMcneal : but that's not america's fault
751961 Verntuzo : Date una escapadita un día macua
751963 PauLa : lame people the one who use war as a goal to obtain stuffs
751964 CaptainJack : a traveller I think could be the person going to work or the supermarket
751965 cat : If you have other options, people seldom choose fights
751966 BillMcneal : without war, though, we wouldn't be here speaking english
751967 CaptainJack : a tourist.. needs a map
751968 cat : Why not?
751969 Verntuzo : si los mapas son útiles cuando uno anda de turista
751970 PauLa : a tourist goes with short pants and a traveller with a laggage (valija)
751971 BillMcneal : because english is the result of several invasions of britain, and because the internet was pretty much initiated as a project by the military
751972 Macuahuitl : im going to sleep
751973 Macuahuitl : adios gente
751974 Verntuzo : Saludos macua
751975 Norah19 : I don’t know how the usa dared and droped a nucluar bomb on japan? I still don’t get it
751976 CaptainJack : well I rarely wear short pants , not wise on a moto
751977 BillMcneal : are you serious norah?
751978 BillMcneal : do you really not know?
751979 PauLa : lol Jacko
751980 cat : Mh...maybe the world would have been better off without the british empire?
751981 Norah19 : No, i don’t know
751982 CaptainJack : cat, lol
751983 BillMcneal : they created lots of things, luckily, we must embrace the past
751984 PauLa : as you said later cat, there´s not empire but people
751985 CaptainJack : few would speak english
751986 CaptainJack : I would find life hard here
751987 CaptainJack : :p
751988 BillMcneal : norah, the us and japan were at literal war, the bombs were dropped as a means of forcing the japanese to surrender quickly or else the war would extend and cause even more deaths (but, arguably, was also a display of power from the us to the soviet union)
751989 BillMcneal : i think both are true
751990 cat : But the native americans would appreciate it
751991 cat : I think white men did a lot of hsrm actually
751993 CaptainJack : hsrm?
751994 super : It would have been better if the industrial revolution had happened much slower and the Europeans hadn't overun the world.
751995 super : The world will end in maybe 40 years?
751997 cat : I agree...like the digital revolution happens too fast now
751998 PauLa : you can´t stop evolution
751999 super : We are hurtling towards oblivion
752000 BillMcneal : it's the nature of the technology, we have already approached certain limits anyway, no need to become so paranoid
752001 CaptainJack : its an age where wisdom takes a back seat
752002 PauLa : nice argument Jacko, jaja
752003 super : Democracy is impossible because people know how to manipulate the results.
752004 Verntuzo : El problema es no acabar con nuestros insumos
752005 cat : Yeah...and the mind is taken ovet by machines
752006 Verntuzo : recursos,,,,
752007 CaptainJack : personally I think the media have a big part in it
752008 cat : ...and people no longer appreciate the positive outcomes of democracy
752009 CaptainJack : no one believes anything
752010 CaptainJack : where is democracy?
752011 cat : Quite the contrary in my opinion
752012 BillMcneal : don't you vote? there's democracy <shrug>
752013 BillMcneal : it's all it is
752014 cat : People follow ideas far too easily
752015 PauLa : that´s direct democracy
752016 super : People vote against thier own interests.
752017 super : People are too stupid to vote.
752018 PauLa : people vote with their pockets
752019 Verntuzo : La democracia se emplea desde la sociedad misma
752020 BillMcneal : el pueblo no gobierna sino a través de sus representantes blah blah
752021 cat : Cause they are manipulated so easily
752022 CaptainJack : when people vote listening to a controlled media,, the outcome is pre defined
752024 cat : And...when people have no choice to inform themselves
752025 CaptainJack : my pockets are empty paula so I would have no vote :p
752026 BillMcneal : people always vote listening to others, you weren't born knowing all you know, someone taught you stuff, but with what agenda? etc etc
752027 PauLa : they are manipulated because they lack of culture and knowledges
752028 BillMcneal : it never ends if you look at things that way
752029 Norah19 : I think the usa is crazy and schizophrenic, they fight with kids and women in japan
752030 super : We should vote on the required outcome not the way to achieve it.
752031 BillMcneal : that was vietnam, norah
752032 Verntuzo : Hay que votar...SIEMPRE
752033 super : Norah are you anti USA??
752034 PauLa : but who knows who is the best Super?
752035 CaptainJack : i rarely met anyone in Scotland not wearing a ragers top that didn't want a Scotland free from westminister, but there you go
752036 Norah19 : What about hiroshima? There weren’t kids and women and old ppl in there?
752037 Norah19 : Why they dropped the atomic bomb on everybody?
752038 BillMcneal : norah i have already told you why they dropped the bombs, you make of it what you wish
752039 super : Maybe countries should be run by experts not politicians.
752040 BillMcneal : you could even argue that if the americans hadn't done it, the soviets would have, and stalin wouldn't have waited to have a true enemy to drop them on just to flex some muscles
752041 PauLa : that could be a good idea, but at last aren´t them getting same behaviours?
752042 PauLa : money and corruption rule
752043 BillMcneal : politicians are like predators, they will reappear no matter what changes you make to the system of government
752044 BillMcneal : in the end we're trying to have no one living off of us, but we can't, we can't fight natural selection
752045 cat : Money drives the world not politics
752046 Norah19 : I don’t know , i think russia is better than the usa
752047 PauLa : politics aren´t in the world?
752048 CaptainJack : I don't mind financing those in need, but those that take pretending to be in need, and its a lot, turn society against giving
752049 Verntuzo : Las reglas, las reglas...Muchas veces no se respetan.
752050 cat : In the western world i would say its liberalism thst dictates
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