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626066 BillMcneal : and the coup d'etats are not working
626067 PauLa : it depends on USA and Russia
626068 BillMcneal : because the majority has become passive to the regime
626069 PauLa : Venezuela has tons of oil
626070 BillMcneal : usa will keep buying their oil, as will russia
626071 PauLa : USA doesn´t need their oil
626072 PauLa : they have enough now
626073 BillMcneal : of course it does :P but they have never stopped buying it, and venezuela has never stopped selling it
626074 BillMcneal : all the anti-american propaganda within venezuela is just a tool to keep their passive majority under control, like they do in nk
626075 PauLa : they use to buy it but it is refinado en USA
626076 BillMcneal : so?
626077 PauLa : what do you think about Guaido?
626078 PauLa : a pet?
626079 BillMcneal : not necessarily
626080 BillMcneal : but he's clearly not going to win it
626081 PauLa : I agree
626082 BillMcneal : if he really were a pet the struggle would be long over
626083 necors : I don't really like Guaidó tbh
626084 BillMcneal : why not
626085 PauLa : Maduro´s wife run away to Costa Rica, what does it mean?
626086 BillMcneal : i suppose they considered a massive revolt possible, but it didn't happen
626087 BillMcneal : most of venezuela is being passive, this wouldn't have gotten this bad anywhere else
626088 PauLa : so you suppose Maduro is scared?
626089 necors : I don't have any reason to like him. Also, no one voted him but strangely all foreign governments support him. Why?
626090 necors : I'm not saying Maduro is better at all
626091 BillMcneal : scared is probably too much, but worried, sure
626092 PauLa : all??????
626093 BillMcneal : although right now they must feel pretty confident
626094 PauLa : he is a poor man
626095 PauLa : a dictator
626096 BillMcneal : the parliament (or whichever equivalent they have) elected him provisional president, he didn't just call himself the president
626097 BillMcneal : it was a body elected by the people
626098 PauLa : with only one sheet
626099 necors : yeah... but I don't know if I'm explaining well what I mean
626100 BillMcneal : maduro has control over the supreme court and another body, which is totally bollocks but it's "legal" "too"
626101 BillMcneal : any country that needs so much explaining is necessarily governed the wrong way :P
626102 PauLa : The Farcs with Cabello are dominating the country
626104 necors : that ferreous support from other governments makes me suspicious
626105 PauLa : which other governments?
626106 PauLa : Russia, China, Cuba, Arabs and?
626107 necors : Spain, the whole EU, the US... Nato, basically
626108 BillMcneal : so if spain was in terrible shape and france, portugal and the uk said "hey hey, enough", you'd think that's a bad thing?
626109 necors : I'm talking about Guaidó
626110 BillMcneal : and the whole of south america (minus bolivia)
626112 PauLa : minus us too Bill
626114 BillMcneal : mass media like focusing on the big world players but they don't look at what their neighbors think, we are the ones who receive their refugees
626115 BillMcneal : and so we know, it's real
626116 PauLa : we are
626117 BillMcneal : ah but uruguay is the switzerland of south america :P
626118 BillMcneal : you can't side with anyone
626119 PauLa : it was
626120 necors : The think is, why are they so worried about the government of Venezuela alledgedly volating human rights but the same governments don't have any problem trading and having diplomatic relations with countries like Saudi Arabia? that's what makes me suspicious about Guaidó
626121 necors : thing*
626122 PauLa : be real
626123 PauLa : I guess it is not Guaido
626124 BillMcneal : they're not mutually exclusive realities
626125 PauLa : el que tiene aún la manija del petroleo es Maduro, Necors
626126 necors : I'm not a hater of the USA, but also I don't trust their "good intentions" at all
626127 PauLa : oil is going up suddenly
626128 BillMcneal : it's all politics obviously, but venezuela needs an urgent change of government, a million people have already left their country
626129 PauLa : and Venezuela has the greatest amount of it
626130 PauLa : we know that Bill
626131 necors : I know, and many are coming to Spain and studying in my university
626132 PauLa : but I think it will get a time
626133 necors : I've talked to them, that's what I mean
626134 BillMcneal : tell them about guaidó then :P
626137 BillMcneal : gotta go spy on some venezuelans (?) bye bye
626138 PauLa : jajaja bye
626139 necors : I know you're kidding, but I don't want to argue with someone who has suffered personally living in venezuela
626140 necors : oh, he left
626141 PauLa : I´m leaving too, I couldn´t achieve Bob writing in here bye, have fun
626142 necors : I prefer to simpli listen to them... and they may have strong opinions or be wrong about some things
626143 necors : ok, bye
626144 necors : Bob, noow it's only you, and guestq
626145 Jdawg78 : Hola!
626146 necors : jdawg cuanto tiempo, no se si me recuerdas
626147 necors : i'm leaving, have a nice day!
626148 Jdawg78 : Oh, yeah. I remember you.
626149 Jdawg78 : Oh, too late.
626150 Macuahuitl : Hola, hay alguien aqui?
626152 Raffael : Vaya nick
626153 Raffael : hola jug
626154 Raffael : Dejo saludos
626156 charliedontsurf : All no-shows tonight, this will not be tolerated
626157 DaftElitist : quiet.
626159 DaftElitist : No, that wasn´t a statement, but a request.
626160 bob : you got what you want
626161 DaftElitist : I did until you ruined it
626162 bob : do i offend you?
626163 DaftElitist : not at all
626164 DaftElitist : you must try harder
626165 bob : to quote Homer Simpson 'never try'
626166 DaftElitist : you are very trying
626167 DaftElitist : guest 1 doesn´t say a lot
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